Are permaculture techniques used by charities or governments to help feed and shelter political refugees?

the twin strategies of 'people care' and 'fair shares' seem ideally suited to help those people who cannot return top their homes, possibly forever. add in the concept of 'earth care' and it seems a perfect fit for permaculture-type communities to be developed and employed to help political refugees gain a sense of community, plenty to eat, and (perhaps) new homes. sharecropping revisited?

does anyone know of any examples of charities or governments using permaculture in this way? the cost in the long run would likely be cheaper for all, once people were properly trained. and refugees would have a new brighter future to look forward to.


The principals of Permaculture are only Used in Vietnam and Australia, on social or Government levels as far as i know .

But Australia has serious water and draught problems ,Vietnam was devastated by war ,both countries had a lot of problems ,climatic or economic,

It is mostly applied by individuals ,and small communities ,
in Many places all over the world.

It should be part and parcel of government policy,

but this is an Imperfect world

We tried with Yahoo for 2 months to include it under Environment as a subcategory ,so that the ideas could be spread .
But so far with out success

In reality Permaculture is a revolutionary concept ,because it
promotes independence of Government using you own wastes positively,creating your own energy,,providing for your own needs and so having healthier lives .Listening to community elders for guidance.

Governments would be out of a job .no drainage,no energy or water to sell,no products to tax, ,no trash to collect ,less public transport or health services , disciplined people

Now we cant have all that going on can we .
hi yes red cross certainly use renewable energy sources for deployment in emergency situations..
Certainly I have seen charities that build housing for people on welfare are looking towards sustainable building practices...
I dont think Permaculture is generally used that much when it comes to relief aid for refugees..
I have never heard of permaculture being used like that... but I think it is a bloody brilliant idea. The devil is in the details though... let me explain...

I suppose what happens in actuality is that disaster relief is community driven where agencies lend resources rather than overpowering directions. This is where the difficulty in the concept lies because it requires re-education of communities that are already heavily stressed by disaster etc.

As for use of permaculture by govts to feed and shelter refugees... permaculture requires a medium term to establish itself, whereas refugees require urgent and immediate shelter. True that refugees could care and tender to the permaculture structure, but that structure would have to be put into place in a surplus arrangement to sustain any influx of refugees. None of this is impossible to manage.. but it does weigh heavily on allocating resources for the care and maintenance of permaculture infrastructure that may never be used for the intended purpose. Govt's dont like the look of those bottom lines. If we are to drive such a program, then more than a case of red wine is required to resolve the many obstacles that will be encountered.

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